Desynthing

[raidenn]

I seem to have trouble desynthing even if the crafting level of the item is like 5 levels below my current level. What should I do to be successful?

[tdh]

Re: Desynthing

Some of us think there was an unofficial "Nerf" to Desynthing in December. You used to fail maybe 25% of the time, now you're lucky if you succeed 40% of the time on a synth that's a third of your level.

I used to desynth Cotton Thread A LOT! At 25k a stack, I could HQ the Desynth more than 50% of my successful tries, Goblin Armor only cost me 1-3k each, and I farmed my Lightning Clusters. So for 3 to 12k, I could post a 25k stack at the AH.

After the update in December, that went bye-bye. I even had a LS member try the same synth with their Clothcraft Lv.60. They were having the same results as I was.

So despite the fact that the Desynth cap may be 25 levels below your current Crafting level, Desynthing is going to be considerably more difficult for you.

[nanatsu]

Re: Desynthing

I haven't fully tested this, but I've experienced better results desynthing actual armor and weapon pieces, rather than beastmen items. I was trying to gather together cotton thread for Hunter's Cotton synth and I didn't fare very well on goblin and moblin armors. I failed way too much. But then I checked somepage for armor pieces and tried Cotton Kyahan instead. My success rate seemed to instantly go up, even though Cotton Kyahans are a level 24 synth. My clothcraft was at around 55-56 at the time when I made these attempts. So whatever nerf SE might have put in place, it may not be applied to player armor yet. All I know is that I got a ton of cotton thread and whereas I failed almost all of my goblin piece desynths, I had what I would guess to be at least a 50% or more success rate on the Cotton Kyahan on lightningday. So you can try cotton armor pieces and see if that works out any better for you. You can find them from Tenshodo NPCs usually. And please rate up if you find this useful, been getting a lot of rate downs for silly reasons lately.

EDIT: I meant to say more than 50% success rate.

[Sabaron]

Re: Desynthing

I have Alchemy 84 and I still break over 50% of my Goblin Masks when desynthing for Glass Fiber.

There are two things you can try.

(1) Buy 50 Tarutaru stools and put them in your house (I don't know if they'll all fit because I haven't acutally done this). This should give you Moghancement: Desynthesis and an Overwhelming Lightning Aura.

I simply bought 1 Tarutaru stool and used it.

(2) Buy 50 Flower Stands and put them in your house. This should give you Moghancement: Lightning and an Overwhelming Lightning Aura.

The first option should increase the rate of High Quality results with your desyntheses. If you are doing glass, this can mean getting up to 8 fiber from a single mask.

The second option supposedly decreases your loss rate when your crystal breaks--saving masks. I am not sure, however, that this applies to desynthesis--it may be that Lightning Moghancement only works for synthesis. Desynthesis being incredibly unpredictable it is difficult to study. There are two primary types of desynthesis: Wind and Lightning. Lightning is far more common than wind, use the appropriate elemental moghancement if your desynthesis is not Lightning. The two odd-ball desyntheses are Oil from Tonberry Lanterns which uses Water and Poison Dust from Gigas Socks which uses Fire. Both of these desyntheses are Alchemy. There might be others that I don't know about.

I also have no idea how the day, moon, and guild assistance help with desynthesis. However, I'll tell you that I've generally felt more "lucky" when I only do Lightning desynthesis on Watersday for a Lightning Crystal or Darksday. Try doing your desynthesis on the day that your element is strong against or on Darksday and see if that makes a difference.

[nanatsu]

Re: Desynthing

I tried the furniture route at one time with about 30 or so stools for Powerful Enhancement. It was all I could fit in my mog house at the time. It does decrease your losses for desynthesis, but it really doesn't do anything for your success rate. I can say that it actually seems as though desynthesis success rate gets better on full moon to me, even though I can't offer any concrete proof about that.

If you want to go the route of using furniture to help your synth/desynth chances then you can go here to find out more about it:

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/furniture.php

[Ellipses]

Re: Desynthing

I have 50 Tarutaru Stools and a Wastebasket (plus Adventurer's Certificate) in my moghouse, so yes, they fit. With Moghancement:Desynthesis, Overwhelming Lightning aura, and 53 Alchemy... I couldn't tell you squat about my failure rate. I don't desynth on a regular basis usually, just when I happen to get a cheap goblin mask or two. But generally, I either break or HQ. I'll hardly ever NQ, and HQs outnumber breaks.

The only time I've noticed really bad results has been Darksday.

[Sabaron]

Re: Desynthing

Hmm... Maybe you shouldn't try the Darksday thing then... I'm really not sure, I just "feel" like I'm doing better.

[Ellipses]

Re: Desynthing

Well, I really shouldn't comment on a massive trend of any kind. I was mostly saying that I do HQ fairly often, and the stools do fit. I don't desynth enough (or pay attention to moon phase or day most of the time) to make any other kind of generalization. The Darksday thing was just a passing "Darksday seems to suck" thing, and lord knows memory and emotion and crap can screw up the perceptions on that.

[Myaku]

Re: Desynthing

I second(third?) the idea of getting Moghancement: Desynthesis. I noticed a marked improvement in my materials lost after getting the Moghancement. It does not really seem to effect HQ, but you will lose your materials less often on breaks.

[sevenpointflaw]

Re: Desynthing

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/cra...ight=Debunking

My thread on desynths, and what I have so far.

Double Post Edited:
Consequently at 50% moon, I get about 5-7stacks of cotton for every 25 desynths. My record on full moon is 13 stacks of cotton for 27 desynths.