Is mining dead now?

[ibroyles]

Just checked the price of Adamans on my server, __DOWN TO 50k__. Now I don't know about you guys, but I figured the patch would make it harder for people to mine up Adaman, hence hopefully keeping the price stable and not making it as affected by the new AH tax. Apparantly I was wrong.

Basically I'm just wondering. Sure you might say 50k is still quite a bit for one ore, but Adamans were a steady 90k before the price crashed. I can make 50k at Gugsen mining up Gold if I really wanted, the whole point of Ifrits was that is was harder to mine there, and you get great rewards if you get lucky. Now, you have to be _REALLY_ lucky(just an example, I've mined for 5 hours there before w/o dying and not getting any rare ores), because not only is there a shitty drop rate with Adamans(even before the patch), the drop rate now deteriorates with time. And this price is DROPPING? May I say wtf?

I know somebody is going to say "normal price fluctuation," but I will say to you that in all the days I've been mining in Ifrits, Adamans have _never_ been below 60k, and the price has only dropped below ~70k one time since the whole time I've been mining there. I just don't understand, Adaman is the second best ore in the game(...right next to orichalum, which don't even get me started on that drop rate...) and it now costs next to nothing? This sucks. /rant

edit: almost forgot the point of this post I was so upset. If the price of any rare ores(including gold, darksteel, adaman, orich) have dropped on your server please respond. I'm trying to get a feel for if some dumbfuck just severely lowered his price or if the mining market is caving in on all servers.

edit2: OK, I just did some reading up on another board, it appears that the reason Adamans are dropping to 50% of original value is because Adamans/Orichalum are now easier to get in certain BCNMs...I saw another guy post that the same thing is happening on his server.

[Siber]

Also, it is possible to garden Adaman ores so someone may have harvested a lot recently and just wanted to get rid of them. But do they really drop from BCNMs now?

[ibroyles]

Keep in mind however that Adamans have _never_ dropped below 60k before, and they have only dropped below 70k on my server one time(so this is very rare). Now they are at a _steady_ 50k(as in, the whole page on the AH history is 50k), and there are still 30 up for sale. I don't think this is just some fluke, the supply for Adamans has dramatically shot up.

[neighbortaru]

could be the new AH fees discouraging high level crafters from doing expensive synths that take forever to sell...

[Gman]

The new BCNM's have lots of new drops. Venomous claw drops from one of them now, hence the 3.5 mil price now on Scorpion Harness (down from 8 mil) . I'm sure that will continue to drop as well.

Things are changing drastically. In fact, this patch has a bigger ~in game~ impact than CoP did lol.

[poweryoga]

one of your high lvl smithers might just be taking finals.

[Jeture]

mining ^^

I've given up on mining in ifrits (which has been a good source of gil in the past)

Adaman on Shiva has dropped to 60-80k each and Ori. ores are dropping too since I think people have discovered gardening recipes to it (the last 10 were sold by the same person)

[Funguwari]

My advice: Save up like 7 ores... make sure the market has none on the AH (or close to none) and bump up the price yourself. If it dosen't work, pat yourself on the back comfortingly and say to yourself "good try".

[Frumply]

just fyi the Coeurl 60 BC has adaman ore as one of the 100% drops, i.e. every time the BC's done an adaman ore will drop.

darksteel prices have gotten crazy now though, since that doesn't come out of a bc.

[Alexzander]

You cant even make a half assed mule for Korro tunnel. Its sad because you end up paying like 2K each for a stack of pickaxes and come back with like 1.5K worth of ores.

I'd say Gusg mines is a good place to farm but now a days just about every mine spot is camped by a botter.:sweat:

[ibroyles]

Originally posted by Alexzander
You cant even make a half assed mule for Korro tunnel. Its sad because you end up paying like 2K each for a stack of pickaxes and come back with like 1.5K worth of ores.

I'd say Gusg mines is a good place to farm but now a days just about every mine spot is camped by a botter.:sweat:

Exactly I could mine in Gugsen and get maybe the same profits as Ifrits now, but whats nice about Ifrits is there are almost never people in there. Now they only have more of a reason not to go there lol. no worries though, everything will work out fine. Hell if anything if you're leveling smithing or goldsmithing right now you'll save yourself a bunch of money.

[Arctyc]

edit2: OK, I just did some reading up on another board, it appears that the reason Adamans are dropping to 50% of original value is because Adamans/Orichal(c)um are now easier to get in certain BCNMs...I saw another guy post that the same thing is happening on his server.

Wait for the rebound. Beastmen (and Kindred) Seals are not unlimited. People run out.

[ibroyles]

Originally posted by Arctyc
Wait for the rebound. Beastmen (and Kindred) Seals are not unlimited. People run out.

Maybe so, down to 40k now though ; ;

[Drizzt_991]

On Unicorn the prices for adm. ore droped to 40-50k. For some reason though darksteel and gold are arround 10-15k. Ran into yug. grotto the other day and made 30k in about 10min. They might as well remove the mining points from Ifrits all together, expecially after the "if you stay in the zone to long you get worse results"

[little ninja]

what is making mining semi worse is the zone rule now. back then crowds in the mines really didnt matter, you could run around an just out last them. now if it has a few people. might as well give up til later. break ground once, it starts. you may not hit another spot for awhile, thus making profits dwindle to a small degree. an now there goes mining to crafting, to save space, cause the time clause is gonna bite you in the back side,